In addition to her actual job as one of the planet’s most quickly rising pop artists, Chappell Roan has also taken on a sort of unwanted cultural side hustle: Serving as the vessel for society’s ongoing arguments with itself about how pop stars “should” conduct themselves in public.

Earlier this year at the VMAs, Roan shot back at a seemingly different photographer yelling at her on the red carpet. “This is quite overwhelming and quite scary,” she said later on about the interaction.